Comments on: Twelve Months After the Escape – Is the Grass Really Greener on the Other Side? http://www.techdarkside.com/twelve-months-after-the-escape-is-the-grass-really-greener-on-the-other-side Struggles of a Self-Taught Coder Tue, 07 Feb 2012 02:07:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Wendy http://www.techdarkside.com/twelve-months-after-the-escape-is-the-grass-really-greener-on-the-other-side/comment-page-1#comment-16478 Wendy Sat, 26 Dec 2009 07:43:36 +0000 http://www.techdarkside.com/twelve-months-after-the-escape-is-the-grass-really-greener-on-the-other-side#comment-16478 I am glad to hear that. This is my first time to come here. I think you work happily now,right?How lucky are you! Many people can't find job which does he like,so they work unhappily,just for the money. So,treasure your work！ Btw，Recommend an online freelance platform, <a href="http://www.taskcity.com." target="_blank">www.taskcity.com.</a> Their professional offline service can help ture your simple idea into a real project. This website seems be suit to you，it can help you get richer and richer！ Good luck！ I am glad to hear that.
This is my first time to come here.
I think you work happily now,right?How lucky are you!
Many people can't find job which does he like,so they work unhappily,just for the money.
So,treasure your work！
Btw，Recommend an online freelance platform, http://www.taskcity.com. Their professional offline service can help ture your simple idea into a real project.
This website seems be suit to you，it can help you get richer and richer！
Good luck！

]]> By: davidray http://www.techdarkside.com/twelve-months-after-the-escape-is-the-grass-really-greener-on-the-other-side/comment-page-1#comment-16455 davidray Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:37:36 +0000 http://www.techdarkside.com/twelve-months-after-the-escape-is-the-grass-really-greener-on-the-other-side#comment-16455 Well Dennis, that may be your bottom line but it's not mine. I'm much more concerned about the long term impact of a job I hate on my health, wealth, and happiness than I am about a paycheck. That said, the pay is about the same. One major difference though - if we're successful there's a heck of a lot more upside than in IT. Conversely, failure is a lot rougher too. Well Dennis, that may be your bottom line but it's not mine. I'm much more concerned about the long term impact of a job I hate on my health, wealth, and happiness than I am about a paycheck.

That said, the pay is about the same. One major difference though – if we're successful there's a heck of a lot more upside than in IT. Conversely, failure is a lot rougher too.

]]> By: Dennis Gorelik http://www.techdarkside.com/twelve-months-after-the-escape-is-the-grass-really-greener-on-the-other-side/comment-page-1#comment-16454 Dennis Gorelik Sun, 06 Dec 2009 15:58:10 +0000 http://www.techdarkside.com/twelve-months-after-the-escape-is-the-grass-really-greener-on-the-other-side#comment-16454 David, all these things you mentioned are definitely nice to have, but what about bottom line? Is $$ per hour you spend working better than you had it while working for the dark side? David, all these things you mentioned are definitely nice to have, but what about bottom line?
Is $$ per hour you spend working better than you had it while working for the dark side?

]]> By: Michael Kelly http://www.techdarkside.com/twelve-months-after-the-escape-is-the-grass-really-greener-on-the-other-side/comment-page-1#comment-16448 Michael Kelly Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:46:48 +0000 http://www.techdarkside.com/twelve-months-after-the-escape-is-the-grass-really-greener-on-the-other-side#comment-16448 w00t w00t

]]> By: davidray http://www.techdarkside.com/twelve-months-after-the-escape-is-the-grass-really-greener-on-the-other-side/comment-page-1#comment-16449 davidray Thu, 03 Dec 2009 14:06:05 +0000 http://www.techdarkside.com/twelve-months-after-the-escape-is-the-grass-really-greener-on-the-other-side#comment-16449 Hi Jim, While this is perhaps not as detailed an analysis as you'd like, here are the differences that have been important to me: 1) I feel valuable to the company. I'm not treated like a cost center anymore - I think this is because I'm not. I'm directly tied to my company's revenue. 2) People listen to my recommendations. I don't always win, but when I lose it's because of what's best for the company, not because of what's politically expedient for my management chain. 3) I like my work. A lot of this is because of how important it is that we stay current. We're always close to the edge, and that is fun. 4) I don't have a lot of meetings. When we meet, it's because we have to, not because it's someone's mandate or best practice. 5) My leaders understand my job and actually grok the issues I face. 6) My leadership is under the same pressure to stay current in their responsibilities as I am and they do it. 7) We focus on execution and delivery. 8) We have simple, effective communication channels. None of these things were true in any of the corporate IT work I've done. Dave Hi Jim,
While this is perhaps not as detailed an analysis as you'd like, here are the differences that have been important to me:
1) I feel valuable to the company. I'm not treated like a cost center anymore – I think this is because I'm not. I'm directly tied to my company's revenue.
2) People listen to my recommendations. I don't always win, but when I lose it's because of what's best for the company, not because of what's politically expedient for my management chain.
3) I like my work. A lot of this is because of how important it is that we stay current. We're always close to the edge, and that is fun.
4) I don't have a lot of meetings. When we meet, it's because we have to, not because it's someone's mandate or best practice.
5) My leaders understand my job and actually grok the issues I face.
6) My leadership is under the same pressure to stay current in their responsibilities as I am and they do it.
7) We focus on execution and delivery. 8) We have simple, effective communication channels.

None of these things were true in any of the corporate IT work I've done.

Dave

]]> By: Jim Hazen http://www.techdarkside.com/twelve-months-after-the-escape-is-the-grass-really-greener-on-the-other-side/comment-page-1#comment-16447 Jim Hazen Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:49:20 +0000 http://www.techdarkside.com/twelve-months-after-the-escape-is-the-grass-really-greener-on-the-other-side#comment-16447 David, Why don't you describe the differences and Pro's & Con's of each for you. I've been in both and find them relatively the same. Both have their problems and benefits, but in general the software world is just kinda screwy. But it can be fun and when things do go right it is very self gratifying to be involved in it. And as you know it is never a dull moment with some of the "characters" that can be involved. Jim David,

Why don't you describe the differences and Pro's & Con's of each for you. I've been in both and find them relatively the same. Both have their problems and benefits, but in general the software world is just kinda screwy. But it can be fun and when things do go right it is very self gratifying to be involved in it. And as you know it is never a dull moment with some of the "characters" that can be involved.

Jim

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