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	<title>Comments on: The Pick or the Shovel &#8211; which is better for digging?</title>
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		<title>By: mike D</title>
		<link>http://www.techdarkside.com/the-pick-or-the-shovel-which-is-better-for-digging/comment-page-1#comment-16933</link>
		<dc:creator>mike D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 15:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true the waterfall method can drown anyone.  Agile is always wearing a life saver. 
But I digress because I worked for years on federal government projects.  No one in the government wants to get dirty so they will not pick up a pick or shovel.  All they do is watch the journeyman and then hire another.  Tools are for everybody whether pick or shovel or both.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s true the waterfall method can drown anyone.  Agile is always wearing a life saver.<br />
But I digress because I worked for years on federal government projects.  No one in the government wants to get dirty so they will not pick up a pick or shovel.  All they do is watch the journeyman and then hire another.  Tools are for everybody whether pick or shovel or both.</p>
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		<title>By: julieB</title>
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		<dc:creator>julieB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!   But the responses...

What a bunch of &quot;Agilistas&quot;!!!    Why would a &quot;journeyman&quot; need to be &quot;converted&quot; with &quot;Evidence&quot; in order to use a simple &quot;pick&quot;?   Them&#039;s fighting words....I thought the point of the post was to convince us there is no need for a cat fight?   Put up your paws!! 

Signed,
The PiMP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!   But the responses&#8230;</p>
<p>What a bunch of &#8220;Agilistas&#8221;!!!    Why would a &#8220;journeyman&#8221; need to be &#8220;converted&#8221; with &#8220;Evidence&#8221; in order to use a simple &#8220;pick&#8221;?   Them&#8217;s fighting words&#8230;.I thought the point of the post was to convince us there is no need for a cat fight?   Put up your paws!! </p>
<p>Signed,<br />
The PiMP</p>
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		<title>By: Tate Stuntz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tate Stuntz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, you can&#039;t beat the Lean book from the Poppendiecks for really making a case for Agile. The Lean book does that by explaining how some people have done &quot;Agile&quot; in manufacturing for decades now. Except, of course, there they call it Lean.

For me, the only other book that makes a good case is Larman&#039;s Agile book for Managers. He has a full chapter called &#039;Evidence&#039; which just buries you with research statistics and quotes from thought leaders from all over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you can&#8217;t beat the Lean book from the Poppendiecks for really making a case for Agile. The Lean book does that by explaining how some people have done &#8220;Agile&#8221; in manufacturing for decades now. Except, of course, there they call it Lean.</p>
<p>For me, the only other book that makes a good case is Larman&#8217;s Agile book for Managers. He has a full chapter called &#8216;Evidence&#8217; which just buries you with research statistics and quotes from thought leaders from all over.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Herrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Herrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have found that the Lean software development stuff converts a lot of people to more &quot;agile&quot; thinking.

http://www.poppendieck.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have found that the Lean software development stuff converts a lot of people to more &#8220;agile&#8221; thinking.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.poppendieck.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.poppendieck.com/</a></p>
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